Friday, 26 October 2012
Tuesday, 9 October 2012
Men Aren't Ending
A review of Hanna Rosin's The End Of Men, by Maria Bustillos. This article originally appeared on the L.A. Review of Books.
Rosin makes her case in a series of chapters loosely organized around the idea that economic power has irrevocably altered the various roles of women in U.S. culture. In “Hearts of Steel: Single Girls Master the Hook-Up,” she praises the freedom that young women have gained as a benefit of what she calls the “hook-up culture” of modern university life, making a contrast with her own college days in the late 1980s. Her claim is that this new sexual freedom makes it possible for women to pursue their careers more effectively, with less distraction. “The most patient and thorough research about the hook-up culture shows that over the long run, women benefit greatly from living in a world where they can have sexual adventure without commitment or all that much shame, and where they can enter into temporary relationships that don’t derail their careers.”
This description has fit U.S. sexual mores for women for over 50 years. From the moment contraception became widely available to American women, they have been able to enjoy sexual freedom “without commitment or all that much shame” and to avoid marriage if they choose. The salient point, then and now, is not so much “without commitment” as “without fear of conception.” Women still face the same basic questions: career vs. family; commitment vs. fancy-freedom; finding a mate who will support our ambitions, and whose ambitions we, in turn, can support. Many of us who came of age during the time of great sexual permissiveness before the advent of AIDS find the current generation much like our own, or if anything a little bit more careful: a mixed bag, with some very “adventurous” people and some far less so. There’s nothing new, in other words, about “hook-up culture.”
Serious omissions have been made in presenting some of the research in The End of Men. For example, Rosin cites an article in the New York Times (‘For Women Under 30, Most Births Occur Outside Marriage‘) as evidence that women don’t need men as much as they used to. They’re having babies “outside marriage.” But the article in question says that “[a]lmost all of the rise in nonmarital births has occurred among couples living together.” This would suggest that it’s the institution of marriage, not the presence of men, that has declined.
Rosin goes on to quote UVA sociologist Brad Wilcox: “The family changes over the past four decades have been bad for men and bad for kids, but it’s not clear they are bad for women.” So, is it fair to say that Wilxox thinks “the erosion of marriage” is a positive thing for women?
Not so fast. Just a few weeks ago, an essay appeared in Slate citing a battery of recent studies and concluding unequivocally that “it’s worse to be raised by a single mother, even if you’re not poor.” The author? UVA sociologist Brad Wilcox:
Children from poor and working-class homes are now doubly disadvantaged by their parents’ economic meager resources and by the fact that their parents often break up. By contrast, children from more-educated and affluent homes are doubly advantaged by their parents’ substantial economic resources and by the fact that their parents usually get and stay married.How, exactly, can changes in society that harm children possibly benefit their mothers?
In the book’s most bewildering chapter, “A More Perfect Poison: The New Wave of Female Violence,” Rosin says that women are becoming more aggressive and powerful not just in the courts of Venus, but on the field of Mars. It opens with the story of a California woman who killed her husband by drugging him and stuffing him into a vat of acid, followed by several accounts of women who poisoned their husbands, and who are “remaking the lady poisoner archetype to fit with the upheaval in our modern domestic arrangements.” Such a poisoner might be a chemist, for example, with “an impressive job at a biochemical or pharmaceutical company.” That means she wouldn’t be availing herself of “household staples accessible to the average unhappy housewife” in order to kill anybody. Exactly what of any value might be learned about gender politics from such monstrosities isn’t really made clear.
But female aggression in general is on the rise, according to Rosin. “Since the United States passed mandatory arrest laws for domestic violence in the late 1990s, arrest rates for women have skyrocketed, and in some states reached 50 percent or more of all arrests.” We used to think that women weren’t competitive or dominant, but “they are breaking through even that last barrier, with the force of the Lady Gagas, Katniss Everdeens, and schoolgirls with cleats and bruises.” I honestly can’t tell whether or not Rosin sees this as a good thing, but again: we have had brawling women as well as brawling men since the days of Boadicea, if not earlier. Maybe the desperation among women has gotten worse in tandem with their rising responsibilities in the working world. If it has, that’s clearly a bug, not a feature.
By far the biggest problem with The End of Men is its gender essentialism. The title isn’t a bit misleading; this is manifestly a misandrist book. The men depicted are an incredibly sorry lot, it’s true. Rosin shows one of them how to manage the complexities of the microwave at 7-Eleven. Another, a lazy stay-at-home dad, is unperturbed when his toddler son pees on the floor and smears poop on the walls; when his high-achieving lawyer wife gets home, she cleans everything and everybody up and cooks dinner like a “whirlwind” as her no-count man sits on a stool to “watch her work”.
These guys have been fired, laid off from manufacturing jobs, they’ve become OxyContin addicts, they’re violent, they don’t pay child support. They go fishing all day and drip fishy water onto the floor.
“They don’t like to think too hard,” offers one woman, as an explanation of why men don’t want to go to college. And when they do, “guys high-five one another when they get a C, while girls beat themselves up over a B-minus.” Another, of her boyfriend: “He has no opinion at all. He wants me to tell him what to do.” Men! They spend hours playing video games! They can’t sit still! They are “the new ball and chain.”
This kind of thing makes Rosin come off like a mirror version of David Brooks, drawing improbable conclusions from pretend or crazily narrow, twisted bits of evidence or the most threadbare, throwback caricatures. “For most of the [twentieth] century men derived their sense of manliness from their work, or their role as head of the family,” we learn. “A ‘coalminer’ or a ‘rigger’ used to be a complete identity, connecting a man to a long lineage of men. Implicit in the title was his role as anchor of a domestic existence [...] They lost the old architecture of manliness, but they have not replaced it with any obvious new one.” In fact no, the architecture of manliness is exactly as it has ever been, the lineage unbroken. Unzip the fly of the nearest man (ask first, I guess) and you will find that nothing whatsoever has changed in this regard. How many “riggers” did Rosin interview for this book?
Equality is the pole star of my own politics, and that made it really tough going for me to read The End of Men objectively, or maybe even fairly, because it’s evident that Rosin believes women to be literally — and inherently — superior to men. This view is not only one I don’t share, it is anathema to me. It is the exact reason why I have never been able to call myself a feminist; it transgresses against my deepest conviction, namely, a belief in universal human equality. I believe that each of us — all human beings who share the same seemingly limitless abilities, and the same unfathomable doom — should be able to develop his or her potential and live freely and on equal terms in a condition of mutual respect and support. That is not quite the Rosin view. “It’s possible that girls have always had the raw material to make better students,” she writes, “that they’ve always been more studious, organized, self-disciplined, and eager to please, but, because of limited opportunities, what did it matter?” Or: “Many of us hold out the hope that there is a utopia in our future run by women, that power does not in fact corrupt equally.” (Really, “many” of us hold out this hope? I for one would be too scared it would turn out like that old Star Trek: TNG episode, “Angel One.”)
“When it comes to the knowledge, drive, and discipline necessary to succeed, women are the naturals with whom men have to strain to keep up.” Surely, generalizations like these are unhelpful at best. Demographic groups don’t compete, don’t study, don’t seek out the good life: individuals do. That is not even getting into the fact that by “success,” Rosin mainly means a better degree, a bigger salary, material comfort. Perhaps that kind of thinking produces more unhappiness even than the gender wars ever did. In any case, reading remarks like these is liable to prove painful to any reader of very profound egalitarian convictions; it’s like having the root that binds you to the universe hacked at with some kind of machete of Amazonian cluelessness.
In Rosin’s world, girls and women adapt, learn, and better their chances, but boys and men somehow don’t. If violence against women has greatly diminished, if “rape [has] declined sharply over the last thirty-five years,” Rosin seems to think that this is because women have changed, not because men have. Women have grown feistier, they have more power, ergo they are harder to victimize: they have learned they can “say no.” Surely, though, another possible reason for the decline in violence against women might be that men are learning, too: that the basic ideas of fairness and equality that have been promulgated in schools and media since the 1970s — of gender equality, race equality, respect for others — are working for men, as well as for women. The possibility that we’re doing a better job of teaching men not to harm women doesn’t even get a look in.
Beyond this, it appears, we have arrived at the crux of the matter. How on earth can things be “better” only for women, but not for men, or for children? Surely things can only be considered “better” if they are better for everyone: the meanest intelligence in the world would scorn an “improvement” that left her own mate, or her own children, behind. How can we talk about “having it all” as if success were something to be achieved only by individuals, each in the vacuum of her own ambition, and not in families or communities, or marriages?
While we are on the subject of “having it all”: though I admired Anne-Marie Slaughter’s celebrated Atlantic essay, “Why Women Still Can’t Have It All,” I was appalled to see Touré’s equally valuable response in Time go almost completely ignored. “Men are more likely than women to choose work at a cost to family,” he wrote. “Perhaps they suffer less emotionally over that [though, wait — why would anyone think so?], but there’s still pain there. We just push the feelings down and don’t complain. That’s why our side of this story rarely gets told.”
Progress is not a zero-sum game. Society gains when the injustices against men are addressed equally with the injustices against women. Surely it would be wrong to hold one kind of progress hostage to the other. I hope we haven’t forgotten how many young black men are in jail, or how many gay men are discriminated against, or how many poor men are denied a decent education. If we concentrate on the problems that all kinds of people are having, rather than dividing everyone up into the equivalent of rival football teams, won’t we have a better chance of setting things to rights?
While I’m at it, how come everyone has his knickers in such a twist about how we women make less money, but nobody seems to care that the men still die younger than we do? Isn’t that at least equally urgent a problem? I’ve often thought that the shorter lifespan American men have traditionally enjoyed must have been owing to their having to go out to do battle in the wider world alone, to take risks that go unshared by their wives and children; theirs is a solitary, thankless struggle with a heart attack waiting at the end of it. If a man who operated as the head of a “traditional” family were to be fired, or get sick, lose his job, who was going to pick up the slack? It was all on him. Having grown up in such a household, and then establishing the kind where there are two of us out there contending on behalf of our family, it seems so clear that the latter way is fairer and saner for men, and for women too.
It’s tempting to cite last year’s NIH study showing that the life expectancy gender gap is narrowing as evidence of this. As women increasingly share the burden of bringing home the bacon for their families, the gap might eventually disappear altogether.
In short, why aren’t we asking that our society come to “have it all” together? Isn’t that the only way it would work? Is what we’re looking at simply a calcified failure of empathy and of imagination — the sad legacy of the Me Generation, which held that “self-realization” was the goal of life? How can we realize ourselves alone? How can we realize ourselves without one another?
Rosin’s son, Jacob, gets a shout-out in the acknowledgements of The End of Men: “[He] asks me every day why I would write a book with such a mean title. I always tell him that I want to convince people that some men out there need our help, since it’s not always so easy for them to ask for it. He doesn’t quite believe me yet, but maybe one day he will.”
Count me on Jacob’s side of the question. How, exactly, does a book like Rosin’s convince us that “some men out there need our help”? It sounds a lot more like R.I.P. to me: an interpretation amply borne out by the book’s contents.
The dedication of the book reads, “To Jacob, with apologies for the title.” At least Rosin found grace enough to apologize to Jacob. The rest of us are still waiting.
¤
The New Athiesm+ Conference
Some last minute changes to the days events for those planning to attend.
12.00 . Announcement of newly agreed policy on the use of chat up lines at atheist and skeptic conventions. Don’t Ask, (so we) Don’t Tell (you no).
13.00 Expert Panel discussion:
‘Women in the Atheist movement, are we being denied a voice?’
(With panelists PZ Myers, Greg Laden and Jeremy Stangroom)
14.00 Open discussion:
“Is suppression of dissention becoming a problem in the modern skeptic movement?”
This question will be answered by a show of hands amongst attendees.
14.15 Those who voted ‘Yes’ will be lined up, maced by Amanda Marcotte and escorted from the premises.
14.30 Apology to the Religious.
The Atheist movement as a whole (well, at least those unmaced by Amanda) announces an official apology to the religious community.
“We have previously stated that people do not have the right not to be offended by others. We realize now that we were wrong and offer our sincerest apologies. We promise to avoid all behavior or public statements that offends others because to do so in future would make us hypocrites of the highest order."
15.00 Book Burning
Please bring along your copies of ‘The Ancestors Tale, The Selfish Gene, The God Delusion and The Greatest Show on Earth.
Professor Dawkins, will be at hand to sign your copy before it is tossed on the pyre. Please come early as Professor Dawkins can only stay for one hour.
16.00 Richard Dawkins Burning.
Sponsored by ‘Accomodationists-R-Us’
16.30 Stoning of the gender traitors
17.00 2011 Anti-Misogynist award.
The presentation of the 2011 award for those individuals showing true example in avoiding privileged white male behavior towards women at atheist conferences.
This years award goes to the five Islamists who attended the Dublin Convention to promote Sharia Law.
17.30 The Winners of the James Randi 1 Million Dollar Challenge will be presented their prize. The 1 million will be divided evenly between the 500 individuals on the Pharyngula and Skepchick messageboards for their demonstration of perfect psychic abilities, mind reading exactly what was going on in the head of Elevator Guy.
18.00 Keynote Speaker. Rebecca Watson
“Misogyny in the atheist movement: What some random commenters on my youtube channel have to say.”
(Rebecca’s 60 minute talk will be followed by a 1 minute period for questions and macing.)
22.00 - 4 AM 'Annual Skepchicks Keg Party'
The Skepchick 2011 ‘Hot College Girls Tickle Fight’ will be judged, as usual, by Rebecca Watson.
http://sneerreview.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/new-tam-9-schedule.html
Monday, 1 October 2012
Sunday, 9 September 2012
The '1 in 12' Rape Statistic Broken Down
Really nice analysis of the Koss Report's '1-in-4 / 1-in-12' rape figures, from back in the 80's, still used by many feminists today. All very tidily explained on the website Permutation Of Ninjas:
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I’ve seen a statistic come up a few times. For those people not familiar with it, it goes something like this: ”One
in twelve college-age men admit having fulfilled the prevailing
definition of rape or attempted rape, yet virtually none of these men
identify themselves as rapists.”
Like most statistics of its ilk, however, a closer look reveals that not all is how it seems. The first sign of trouble comes from the name of the author: “Koss, Mary P”. People who aren’t familiar with the name might not know that she’s been behind at least a couple different things of….suspect validity.
The next thing to do is to look at the actual study. The only full copy I was able to find was barely legible, but nonetheless an accurate version. If someone has a better copy I’d love to have it, getting through 31 pages of that typing with no search function was nasty. (The questionnaire used is in better quality at the bottom.)
A “yes” to 4 or 5 was labeled as an “attempted rape”, and a “yes” to 8, 9 or 10 was labeled as a “completed rape”. The problem starts with questions 5 and 8. The question goes something like this: “….when you didn’t want to by giving you alcohol or drugs….”. Now, supposedly, this met the legal definition in her state….except it didn’t. The definition she uses in her study purposefully omits a portion of the statute which specifically labels “plying with alcohol or drugs” as outside the legal purview of rape. (Having sex with a woman while she was passed out due to those, however, would be counted.)
In fact, this was so controversial that Koss herself recanted on the question, stating that while she’d thought it acceptable at the time, it was inappropriate.
So what is “one in twelve” anyways? Basic math, but percentages are useful here. For our purposes we’ll use the truncated 8.3%. We then look at the “yes” responses. Note here that these are not counted by “highest”, but rather by aggregate.
For “attempted”, 2% of men said yes to 4 (force without completion) and 5% said yes to 5 (alcohol/drugs).
For “completed”, 4% of men said yes to 8 (alcohol/drugs), 1% said yes to 9 (intercourse by force) and 1% said yes to 10 (other penetration by force).
We should note here and now that discarding the alcohol/drug questions, the highest possible figure we can get is 4%, less than half. This doesn’t tell the whole story, though. If you add up all the numbers, we’d see a result of 13%, not 8%. (About 60% too high.) This means double-counting was going on. (No, not bad research.) Because someone could say yes in multiple categories, the data had to be handled on a per-person basis because otherwise you’d be counting a man who said yes to 8, 9 and 10 as three rapists rather than one. If we assume the double-counting is even (which is bad science, because it’s more likely to be occurring in the two questions we discarded) then we actually have to take that 4% we got and modify it down. This gives us 2.5%, slightly more than a quarter of the original figure. (Incidentally, according to Koss only 27% of the people she labeled as victims considered themselves to have been raped. While this doesn’t imply a strong relationship, it’s an interesting correlation.)
Now, what I’ve done here is not inherently statistically valid, I had to make assumptions. This is, to put it one way, a “worst-case” scenario, (though I could go into it further). However, simply by removing the two questions that were admitted by the researcher to be unacceptable (and assuming that the double-counting was even in order to get a meaningful result from the data available) the figure goes down practically fourfold. One in twelve becomes one in forty. Big difference, and even at that somewhat inflated.
This study is also the source of the “1 in 4” figure for college women being raped. (27.5% to be more exact.) Simply by removing the objectionable question 8 (not 5) the number drops to about 1 in 9. If we take the women at their word and include all questions, the figure would be 1 in 16. Most importantly, this should be noted to include many pre-college incidents as well, which are something entirely different. One examination concluded that if you remove both the objectionable question and limit the responses to those who considered themselves to have been raped, with the understanding that an individual is most likely the best judge of what happened the number ends up “between one and twenty-two and one in thirty-three depending on the amount of overlap between groups.” (That is, how many of the people who considered themselves “not to have been raped” were also removed by Q8.)
Thus one in twelve becomes one in forty, and one in four becomes one in thirty-three.
See the problem?
Some information taken from “Researching the ‘Rape Culture’ of America”, by Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers, found HERE.
Link To Full Study
Questionnaire Used
Like most statistics of its ilk, however, a closer look reveals that not all is how it seems. The first sign of trouble comes from the name of the author: “Koss, Mary P”. People who aren’t familiar with the name might not know that she’s been behind at least a couple different things of….suspect validity.
The next thing to do is to look at the actual study. The only full copy I was able to find was barely legible, but nonetheless an accurate version. If someone has a better copy I’d love to have it, getting through 31 pages of that typing with no search function was nasty. (The questionnaire used is in better quality at the bottom.)
A “yes” to 4 or 5 was labeled as an “attempted rape”, and a “yes” to 8, 9 or 10 was labeled as a “completed rape”. The problem starts with questions 5 and 8. The question goes something like this: “….when you didn’t want to by giving you alcohol or drugs….”. Now, supposedly, this met the legal definition in her state….except it didn’t. The definition she uses in her study purposefully omits a portion of the statute which specifically labels “plying with alcohol or drugs” as outside the legal purview of rape. (Having sex with a woman while she was passed out due to those, however, would be counted.)
In fact, this was so controversial that Koss herself recanted on the question, stating that while she’d thought it acceptable at the time, it was inappropriate.
So what is “one in twelve” anyways? Basic math, but percentages are useful here. For our purposes we’ll use the truncated 8.3%. We then look at the “yes” responses. Note here that these are not counted by “highest”, but rather by aggregate.
For “attempted”, 2% of men said yes to 4 (force without completion) and 5% said yes to 5 (alcohol/drugs).
For “completed”, 4% of men said yes to 8 (alcohol/drugs), 1% said yes to 9 (intercourse by force) and 1% said yes to 10 (other penetration by force).
We should note here and now that discarding the alcohol/drug questions, the highest possible figure we can get is 4%, less than half. This doesn’t tell the whole story, though. If you add up all the numbers, we’d see a result of 13%, not 8%. (About 60% too high.) This means double-counting was going on. (No, not bad research.) Because someone could say yes in multiple categories, the data had to be handled on a per-person basis because otherwise you’d be counting a man who said yes to 8, 9 and 10 as three rapists rather than one. If we assume the double-counting is even (which is bad science, because it’s more likely to be occurring in the two questions we discarded) then we actually have to take that 4% we got and modify it down. This gives us 2.5%, slightly more than a quarter of the original figure. (Incidentally, according to Koss only 27% of the people she labeled as victims considered themselves to have been raped. While this doesn’t imply a strong relationship, it’s an interesting correlation.)
Now, what I’ve done here is not inherently statistically valid, I had to make assumptions. This is, to put it one way, a “worst-case” scenario, (though I could go into it further). However, simply by removing the two questions that were admitted by the researcher to be unacceptable (and assuming that the double-counting was even in order to get a meaningful result from the data available) the figure goes down practically fourfold. One in twelve becomes one in forty. Big difference, and even at that somewhat inflated.
This study is also the source of the “1 in 4” figure for college women being raped. (27.5% to be more exact.) Simply by removing the objectionable question 8 (not 5) the number drops to about 1 in 9. If we take the women at their word and include all questions, the figure would be 1 in 16. Most importantly, this should be noted to include many pre-college incidents as well, which are something entirely different. One examination concluded that if you remove both the objectionable question and limit the responses to those who considered themselves to have been raped, with the understanding that an individual is most likely the best judge of what happened the number ends up “between one and twenty-two and one in thirty-three depending on the amount of overlap between groups.” (That is, how many of the people who considered themselves “not to have been raped” were also removed by Q8.)
Thus one in twelve becomes one in forty, and one in four becomes one in thirty-three.
See the problem?
Some information taken from “Researching the ‘Rape Culture’ of America”, by Dr. Christina Hoff Sommers, found HERE.
Link To Full Study
Questionnaire Used
Sunday, 26 August 2012
Neoteny
Even by GirlWritesWhat's largely incomparable standards, her new transmission is a doozy, covering her thoughts on the ramifications of neotony - the evolutionary retention of certain childlike features into adulthood. As usual, the video takes a little while to get going, as she defines her terms & generally lays her wares out, but the last 10 minutes or so she really gets those engines turning. Sublime.
Monday, 20 August 2012
Charlie Chaplin vs. Feminism
VIENNA, May 25.—Charlie Chaplin will deliver a lecture on the tyranny of women in America in Vienna this summer.
This announcement made by Herr Kornblueh at the recent congress of the Vienna league of men called “Justita” was greeted with tremendous applause.“Charlie Chaplin is one of our most ardent supporters abroad” Herr Kornblueh declared, “and since his divorce, he has written to us assuring our organization of his sympathy and emphasizing the necessity of a world wide movement for the emancipation of the oppressed husbands.“The tyranny of modern women, who demand all rights and refuse all duties, who are marrying men only to lead a careless, workless and childless life, or to obtain a divorce and a lifelong alimony, this shameful tyranny is the underlying cause of all evils.“Look at the insane asylum Steinhof in Vienna. Fifty percent of the unfortunate inmates were brought to this place because of their marriage.’’The congress passed a resolution demanding the abolishment of alimonies find other unequal pacts between the two sexes, and protesting against the favoritism of the authorities in favor of women, especially the siding of the police with the wives whenever a domestic quarrel develops.The Justitia is the first organization in the world fighting for the “emancipation of men,” and makes its appeal to all those “in revolt against the oppression of the female sex.” Only the freedom of men can prevent the white race from decline and ruin, declares one of the organizations proclamations.“The only trouble is,” confessed Kornblueh, “there are few courageous men. Husbands are too cowardly, while bachelors are perhaps too willing to join our organization.”[“Chaplin, Siding With Fellows, Will Assail Tyranny of Women - American Comedian and Victim of ‘Oppression of Female Sex’ Joins Brothers of ‘Justitia’ in Fight For ‘Emancipation of Men’,” Charleston Gazette, May 27, 1928, p. 6]
I could find no record of whether Chaplin actually gave the speech announced, & perhaps his involvement went no further than a letter of support, but he certainly had good reason to feel strongly about these issues - he had been forced into his first marriage to Mildred Harris when she (falsely) claimed she was pregnant & the very ugly, very public divorces he went through with both her & his next wife, Lita Grey, cost him enormously in record-breaking settlements, heartache & public support. The stress of the media circus surrounding the second divorce brought on a nervous breakdown & turned his black hair white overnight.

In the court cases, his (male) sexuality was dwelt on & vilified by the press: his love & desire were depicted as perverted - he was a lustful ogre out to corrupt youth, & the women he married only virginal innocents. The claims of the women & their lawyers were believed without question. Later on he became one of the most prominent victims of false paternity claims when in 1945, a (mad) woman he'd had a brief affair with came forward claiming he was the father of her child. Blood tests proved conclusively that Chaplin was not the father but these were not deemed admissible in the state of California at that time & Chaplin was ordered to support a child that was not his own.
Arguably the most famous human being that has ever lived ("bigger than Jesus!", as John Lennon would later have put it) Chaplin was also at this time the world's most eligible bachelor & so a slow-moving target for every gold-digger in the Hollywood hills from the day he hit superstardom to the day he finally fled McCarthyist America for Switzerland, & the United States refused him re-entry, in 1952.
Exactly 20 years later, he returned to the U.S at last at the behest of the Motion Picture Academy. They wanted to honor him with an Oscar for lifetime achievement. No-one mentioned the witch-hunts & slanders of the past. All was forgotten, & he was greeted as the king among men he was.
Monday, 13 August 2012
Men Are Fucking AWESOME!!
This Youtube clip is actually entitled 'People Are Awesome', but c'mon folks, show some dignity & say what you actually see:
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